How do you figure?

Change the Pledge back to the real wording and the issue is gone. period...

Everything else is nothing more than manuvering for or against religion in public schools and the seperation of church and state.

The origional pledge didn't have a thing to do with a specific display of religious beliefs. It was edited to do that.

Use the ogirional of the origional Pledge as it was created and accepted removes that political fire cracker from the issue of the Pledge.

Then those for or against can push their position on if Public Schools should be Christian Schools or not...

Otherwise, for those who push for the changes to stay are only making use of the Pledge as a tool to inject religion into Public Schools.

The odd thing is there are Bible Study clubs and such in public schools already, though I have yet to hear of one for Satanic Religions and or other Pagan Religions, odd huh?

Remove the changes, and it would be accepted hands down I am betting.

you do not have to put your hand on the bible or say anything you do not want in US courts...

yeah what Baker said

And what about the "In God We Trust" in the US money. Well 90% of the population want it in there only 8% against it and 2% undicided. So I guess the 10% minority is not important .

craeonics goes play the ignorant foreigner

Pledge? What the? Every day? Why? What's the point?

who knows but stick the word "God" anywhere and watch ppl get nuts... hehe

IPlural: The problem is three generations of Americans have been saying "under God". Most wouldn't see it as a simple revision. Suddenly the US government will be perceived as discouraging optional religious language. Then the lawsuits start from the other side. It should never be put in, but now that it is... it is a big mess.

I personally think if they have one at all they could leave 'to the flag' out of it as well. "I pledge allegiance to the United States of America, one nation, indivisible..." would be more to the point and a bit less creepy.

but what is next? look at your dollar bill "In God we trust" uh oh! there is that word "God" on it! OMG!

or since it is on a "Dollar" bill the ppl that don't believe in God have no prob w/ seeing it there? hehe
so rediculous...

yeppers Doreen and BakerStreet...

I feel there has been a serious shift in the accepted definition of what it means to be patriotic in that to some extent.
I mean the Government for the People by the People is a nice thing to think, but sadly it seems more and more to be smoke and mirrors.

It is the nation and people we should pledge our allegiance to, the protection, support and gratitude for what such an assembly gives us.
Not some institutionalized lobby driven special interest seeking corporate pandering group who are professional politicians who plan a game of Risk on a global scale while playing at being the card holder and banker in a game of National Monopoly.

I know, I know and have heard it before, but remember I'm just a goof

I am very conservative in some ways while being just as extreamly liberal in others and the splinters at times hurt like all get out

Hehehe! Why thank you Baker; that's got to be a first.

But, any way, under God or not, I just find the whole idea of saying every day "I pledge allegiance to the United States of America, etc." really creepy. 

So, BakerStreet, you're saying that kids don't HAVE to say it?  If they so choose, or their parents, they are allowed to sit back and watch everybody else get brain washed? I was under the impression they had to, with all the fuss of the original story of that father.

Actually, IPlural, if anything, it should be the governement that pledges allegiance to the people of the United States of America, not the other way around.

The original pledge was:

'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.'

Quite different than what it is now.

However, I see no problem in the word "God".  It doesn't claim a certain faith.  It is not saying "Christian God".  I'm not religious at all, and I still have no problem with the word.  People have to fight over the most insignificant things....

I remember in school when I was alittle girl standing there being assembled in line on the playground and being told to put my hand on my heart and say that stupid pledge w/ all the other kids...
(course I never knew what the words were so I just stood there, usually the teacher yelling at me to keep my hand on my heart)
never even knew what in the world these ppl around me are doing this for? I felt so stupid but you had to do it everyday before you went into class...
It serves no purpose I think to make kids do that silly pledge...
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That is the insidious nature of playing to one special interest group, it always comes back around to bite you in the end.

Maybe there should be a National Vote to decide for once and all....

Is the USA a Christian Nation, period and at that point they should put God on everything and jail all of us who refuse to take part in the dogma, while covering women and female children so men do not have evil thoughts and beat them in public if they show something as offensive as an ankle. Oh wait...

naaa, wouldn't work, then we couldn't have a war on Islam

I think it's a bit more complex as you peal the layers off and start addressing the issues one by one. But for a fact, they need to stop pandering to special interest groups of all camps and lobbying should be ended and the elc-college should be disovled as part of the political process. It served it's purpose and now is nothing more than a political tool of those who are funded by special interest on both sides.