Published on November 4, 2003 By Z06Leonhart In WinCustomize Talk
The U.S. Supreme Court has agreed to decide whether the Pledge of Allegiance - with its phrase "one nation, under God" - is something students should be allowed to say in public schools.

A federal appeals court in San Francisco shocked many Americans when it ruled on June 26, 2002, that the words "under God" render the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional.... http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200310\NAT20031014d.html


I think a lot people know about this case. It has been a while but now the Supreme Court have decided to hear the case. My class will have a debate on this next week. I just want to know what the adult think about this case.

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on Nov 04, 2003
Well... It IS a old song that should not be changed. No matter that goverment and curch(sp) should be two seprate things.
on Nov 04, 2003
I totally agree, the added text "under god" should be removed so the origional text is as it was written.

on Nov 04, 2003
I graduated high school a year and a half ago and I can't remember the pledge of allegience for the life of me... It's not like it was a huge deal to say it or not... I was probably too busy with stuff that is actually important in day to day life, rather than being repetitive with something that young people my age could care less of what it means.
I'm not saying I'm ungreatful for being able to live in this awesome country, but a pledge is a pledge. You only need to say it once
on Nov 04, 2003
the added text "under god


You sure it was added? I don't recall any alterations.
on Nov 04, 2003
Yes, it was added. Sometime in the fifties I think.
on Nov 04, 2003
In 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge



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on Nov 04, 2003

I must admit that the whole concept of the pledge of allegiance, as a non-American, is really strange to me.  I was extremely surprised when I recently learned of its existance.
It's something you have to say every day at the beggining of the day, right?

Is it just me, or does it really sound like propaganda? I mean, I know dictators in Third World and Communist countries use this method to force their idea of patriotism into the kids minds... but in the US?  Doesn't it sound like brain washing to anybody but me?

Please don't misunderstand me here. I think the US is a great country that you guys should be proud of, it's just this brain washing practice I find really strange for a democratic country.

on Nov 04, 2003


on Nov 04, 2003
Sometimes something doesn't make sense, but kept because of tradition.

Of course, I'll be proud to call myself un-american if United States becomes Imperial United States.
on Nov 04, 2003
indeed
on Nov 04, 2003
I think it should be up to the students that are reciting it to include them if they choose...isn't forcing someone NOT to say or do something that harms no one the same as forcing someone to DO or say something that does?
on Nov 04, 2003
??? but why would they do this? because the words "Under God" are so threatening? if they do this then why not go further and stop making ppl in court place their hand upon a Bible and "swear to tell the truth and nothing but the whole truth so help me God"

anyways, what about the ppl in court that have no faith in God do they get to lie or what? hehe
sooo silly all of it...
on Nov 04, 2003
In US court, you must swear on the Bible?
Here, you have the choice of swearing on the Bible or making a solemn oath with your hand in the air. 
on Nov 04, 2003
There are religious groups that refuse to say the pledge, and the non-religious have the same right. The pledge is optional, so I assume the 'under god' part is optional as well. If you chose to omit those two words I doubt anyone would reprimand you.The guy who originated this suit feels that his daughter is wronged even if she opts not to say it, though.

That goes a bit further. I'm not in favor of 'God' being on anything governmentally sponsored, but I also don't like the idea of kids being told they are no longer allowed to say 'under God', because then it appears that the government *discourages* religious language.

I think you should be able to say whatever you want as long as it falls in the legal description of free speech. If I had to agree with anyone here so far, it would probably be Paxx



on Nov 04, 2003
yes I agree too you should have a choice...
I did not know you had the choice in court, maybe I watched it too much on TV but I always seen ppl in court have to place their hands upon a Bible and swear to tell the truth hehe
I thought welllll that sure lets the ppl off the hook that don't believe in God...
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